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Elizabeth Norn
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Posted - 2016.09.02 15:51:17 -
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Any update on what will happen to buddy invites? :-)
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Elizabeth Norn
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Posted - 2016.09.02 20:58:04 -
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Ripard Teg wrote:Glad to hear that suicide ganking is high up on your concerns list.
Just to be clear, my particular concern in this area is veteran players using their Alpha clones to suicide gank true new players also using either Alpha or Omega clones. You don't need good character skills to do this, just good player skills, which veteran players will have in abundance. Other than ethics, I can't see much reason why every veteran player wouldn't have at least one Alpha clone set aside for this purpose.
As to not using Alpha clones for more serious ganking, CODE has been solving this problem for years now the same way most EVE alliances solve their problems: greater numbers. Look at their freighter kills and you'll find dozens and dozens of people using T1 fits.
For the morons in the room: I am not against suicide ganking. I've participated in it myself. My concern is the game's ecosystem, and that we'll see far more suicide gankers once the barriers to entry are removed with disposable, free Alpha clones.
So please continue to keep it in mind, thanks!
Alpha clones are a nerf to free ganking accounts compared to what we have now.
Other than ethics, there is also effort and earning. A veteran won't get much more than cheap killmails from new players, I can't imagine many people will bother with that for long, and if they do it should be pretty obvious.
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Elizabeth Norn
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Posted - 2016.09.02 23:31:25 -
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Regan Rotineque wrote:Glad to see an update blog so quickly.
As I said in when this first came out I am in support of the concept of the extended trial type account. However after reading your update blog I am more and more concerned about the issue of t1 ganking alts.
The "write up' you provide is for ganking a freighter, which of course is large has high ehp (if its fitted properly) and is the creme de la creme of the ganking business.
But I am more concerned about the fact that it takes only a couple of t1 fitted kitties or thrashers to go gank t1 haulers t2 haulers retrievers and macks covetors and hulks newbies in ventures almost all versions of frigate scanning/exploration ships the list is almost endless what CAN be ganked vs what is "harder to gank"
suggesting for a second the issue is 'freighter' ganking is missing the point entirely. Releasing a swarm of t1 non paying alts on the paid subs will result in MASSIVE unsubbing.
I for one will not continue to support and pay for a game where griefing is a FTP model. If they want to gank then sub to the game...otherwise head to low/null and pvp yourself silly. Otherwise turn the safety on for all alpha accounts in high sec.
This is your NGE moment CCP - i for one hope you dont let the pvp controlled CSM and Goon/Code squad sway your views on this.
~R~
So what you're saying is that nothing is changing and you're unhappy about it? People who don't tank their ships enough will get always get ganked, and gankers have already access to low cost ganking characters. Due to the limits imposed on Alpha Clones, low cost ganking is actually being nerfed.
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Elizabeth Norn
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Posted - 2016.09.02 23:50:16 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:If we get 5mil free SP lets increase extraction level from 5 to 10mil SP
That's basically what they're doing.
https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/introducing-clone-states-and-the-future-of-access-to-eve-online/
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Elizabeth Norn
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Posted - 2016.09.03 00:36:52 -
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Regan Rotineque wrote:Elizabeth Norn wrote: So what you're saying is that nothing is changing and you're unhappy about it? People who don't tank their ships enough will get always get ganked, and gankers have already access to low cost ganking characters. Due to the limits imposed on Alpha Clones, low cost ganking is actually being nerfed.
Really? You actually believe this? Low cost ganking is being nerfed.... I don't know whether to laugh or cry. How is free account gank alt more expensive than a plexed or subbed gank alt?
Because right now you can buddy invite (21 day trial) yourself, and PLEX the buddy and gain 30 days of subscription on both accounts.
You can create two buddies per main account you PLEX and have an 85% uptime for them. You can get a lot more focused training done in 51 days than an Alpha Clone allows.
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